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Bom Pessoal,
Náo tinha como náo escrever sobre isso.
Lembrei de nossos amigos fanaticos pelo 300 TDI.
Sexta Feira estava ouvindo a rádio CBN e um repórter estava comentando sobre o Novo Maracana.
Disse que tinha achado ridiculo o resultado da reforma. Que era uma total falta de respeito com a populacao fazer o que fizeram com o Estadio.
A reforma transformou o palco de grandes historias em um Shopping!
Pelas "Barbas do Profeta" alguem consegue colocar defeito nos estádios e ginasios americanos?
Infelizmente náo tive a oportunidade de visitar nenhuma obra de desvio de dinheiro publico aqui no Brasil, afim de compara-los.
Mas essa é boa Hein? Dá para ilustrar muito bem o sentimento dos Landeiros aficcionados pela 300 TDI.
Talvez seja verdadeiro o que o Presidente da GM falou. Talvez adoremos carroças!
Só para durmimos com a cabeça quente.
Boa Noite a todos!
Ja tive uma 110 ano 2000 e agora tenho uma 2011. Sim, a motor Puma 2011 é mais potente, bem mais. Mas velocidade em Defender nao deve ser o maior parametro a considerar numa compra.
Sim, a motor Puma é mais silenciosa. Mas Defender tem tantos outros inconvenientes, que é justamente por isso que fazem seus donos serem vistos como meio malucos pelos motoristas de carros normais. Entao, o barulho também é um charme a mais, aliás tenho saudades dele quando lembro que nao posso mais acelerar na bunda de um cara folgado qualquer.
Mas comprei uma 110 ano 2011 motor PUMA e estou satisfeitissimo. POIS ESTOU ANDANDO DE DEFENDER. Nao tenho nenhum preconceito com as 300 Tdis, Td5 etc cada um com os seus problemas quando acontecer.
Pode comprar sossegado este modelo, ela é ótima. O que decidiu minha opção foi querer uma Defender a mais nova possível, justamente pensando em ficar a vida toda com esta já raridade. E levei junto mais potencia, mais conforto.
abs a todos
Ola pessoal,
Não sei se faz muito sentido minha pergunta, mas para as Defender PUMA tem algum ano que é considerado o melhor?
abs,
Sayegh
Pois é Vinicius, em minhas pesquisas não achei nada relacionado a "um ano bom" para as pumas, mas agora vc me deixou com a pulga atrás das orelhas, por gentileza conta ai pra gente o que vc sabe. Um abraço
Exato! Na minha honestíssima opinião, existem anos "menos piores". 2007 e 2008 tiveram inúmeros boletins de serviço sobre motores batendo por problemas no sistema de lubrificação, como cárter com interferência com o eixo, jatos de óleo dos pistões inoperantes e bomba de vácuo vazando óleo, bem como problemas no alinhamento do câmbio com motor, embreagem redesenhada (disco) e câmbio com problemas de fabricação. A partir de 2009 sanaram estes os problemas e o diferencial dianteiro ganhou 4 satélites, assim melhor aguentando a ação do controle de tração. Dizem que em 2011 ganharam eletrônica Bosch no controle de tração e ABS..
Em 2012 o motor vira 2.2, a bomba de vácuo muda de lugar, ela volta a ter bomba elétrica no tanque, a pressão de injeção fica ainda mais alta, ganha filtro de partículas, recebe mais 12 sensores no motor e o manual passa a contar mais de 100 páginas para solução de problemas na eletrônica.
Abs
Clemente
Sou um dos companheiros de viagem do Vinicius, endosso as palavras dele. Depois de 3 def 110 resolvi comprar uma Disco para ir ao Chile, na volta troquei rapidinho pela puma 10/11 que tenho atualmente.
Tudo é uma questão de preços, em todas nossas decisões geramos preços a pagar, então em meu caso resolvi ficar com a Puma que me agradou mais que a 300Tdi. Tenho também uma Def 90 300Tdi 98 e muito satisfeito.
Abraços.
Pessoal, a minha é uma 2007, o problema é que já faz parte da família não posso me desfazer mais rsrsrs. Até onde eu saiba nenhum dos problemas que o companheiro Clemente citou, ocorreu. Será que é uma questão de tempo ? Ou dei sorte de pegar uma sem problemas? No caso desses problemas ocorrerem será que é só trocar as peças pelas das 2009 em diante que resolve? Abraço
Até agora sobre as Pumas, incompleto, apenas os mais importantes:
Fonte: Defender2 - View topic - Service Recalls & Bulletins
Not all but the most important :
Nr 1)
Technical Service Bulletin
No.LTB00177
09 October 2008
Subject/Concern: Brake Vacuum Pump Seal Oil Leak
Models:
Defender (LD) 2.4L Diesel Only
2.4L Diesel Only VIN-range: 7A732615 Onwards
Markets: All
Section: 206-07
Summary: Oil leaking from the brake vacuum pump front oil seal.
Cause: Dirt ingress into the pump pulley seal resulting in damage to the lip and subsequent oil leakage (the new brake vacuum pump has a secondary dirt lip seal). Suggested Customer Concern Code - R31.
Action: Should a customer express concern, install a new brake vacuum pump (refer to Global Technical Reference GTR Workshop Manual, section 206-07 (70.15.19)).
Parts Required:
Description Part Number Quantity
Brake vacuum pump LR012183 1
Gasket LR004381 1
Labour Time:
Operation Description Operation No. Time
Install a new brake vacuum pump 70.15.19 0.7 hours
Repair/Claim Coding:
Causal Part: LR012183
ACES Condition Code: 42
Defect Code:
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Nr.2)
Land Rover Service Bulletin SSM38792, 2.4 Puma Engine Knock Noise.
Title: 2.4 Puma Engine Knock Noise.
Type: LD - Defender - All Years - Special Service Messages - Engine
Name / Part No: SSM38792
Info Type: Service Bulletins
Version No: 1
Date Uploaded: 21 Jul 2008
Models: LD - Defender
Title: 2.4 Puma Engine Knock Noise.
Last Modified: 21-JUL-2008 09:44
Category: Engine
Symptom: 497000 Engine Noise
Content Issue: Heavy audible knocking heard on start up.
Cause: On start up oil pressures can cause the piston cooling jets, (PCJ), to latch into a zero flow condition. Due to hysteresis effect in design the jets do not unlatch until the engine is warm and the oil pressures lower again. During this time with no pressurized oil jet flow to the lower pistons / cylinder bores, overheat and scuff conditions / damage can occur.
Action: Replace the engine assy but ensure only engines post serial # ELD00080707063602 are used.
This condition will not occur on vehicles post assured Vin# 9A767162.
Engines post the info above are fitted with modified PCJ internal springs and this issue is now closed.
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Nr. 3)
SSM39893
Models
LD - Defender
Title Defender Intermittent Cranking
Last Modified 26-NOV-2008 16:29
Category Electrical
Symptom 203000 Basic Electrical
Content Issue:
Warranty investigations have shown a number of repairs to Defender for intermittent loss of cranking.
Cause:
This issue may well be due to the immobilisation strategy on Defender.
Action:
Before conducting any work on a vehicle with this symptom, please view SSM 34184.
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Nr.4)
SSM38084 Models LD - Defender
Title Defender MA 07 - lock in one gear
Last Modified 06-MAY-2008 11:27
Category Transmission
Symptom 505000 Manual gearbox anomalies
Content
Reference: MT82 Getrag gearbok locked in one gear.
Cause: Still not determined.
Required action: Land Rover ask to the dealers to confirm the problem first and proceed to fill the attached questionary before to get in contact with the "Fix Right Enhanced Diagnostics" (FRED) technichians in charge of the repairs. Thats will allow to the enginnering dept to understand the possible causes of the problem.
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Nr.5)
SSM40851
Defender Front and Rear Propshaft Grease Points
Models : LD - Defender
Title: Defender Front and Rear Propshaft Grease Points
Last Modified: 30-MAR-2009 08:27
Category: Noise/ Vibration
Symptom: 703000 Vibration Concerns
Content Issue: Loose or missing front / rear propshaft grease nipples for Defender 07 MYonward vehicles.
Action: If any propshafts are identified where the grease nipples are missing, then the propshaft should be replaced. Any cases where the grease nipples are in place but loose should be torqued to 8Nm + 45degrees.
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Nr.6)
Models
LD - Defender
Title P1169 and or P0089 codes logged.
Last Modified 30-JUL-2008 10:16
Category Driveability
Symptom 608000 Runs Rough
Content Issue:
07MY onwards - Difficult to start, missfire, lack of power, driveability issues etc.
PCM can have either P1169 and or P0089 logged codes.
Pre assured Vin# Def 90 at Vin LD8A760582. Defender 110/130 at Vin# LD8A760304.
Cause:
Potential contamination in the fuel system.
Action:
Remove the fuel filter, drain complete contents into a suitable clear vessel. Note signs of any water contamination / debris. 1) If more than 40cc of water or debris is evident carry out the following:-
Drain the fuel tank.
Check the fuel tank breather location and reposition as per the illustration A attached.
On pick up variants please reposition the breather pipe in board towards the rear of the fuel tank.
If breather is blocked replace the pipe as per GTR.
Replace the fuel filter and clean out the fuel lines of any contamination / debris and or residue.
For P1169 code replace the FMV (Fuel Metering Valve), as per GTR and LTB00153. Illustration B.
If DTC P0089 is also present replace the PRV (Pressure Relief Valve), as per GTR. Illustration C.
Bleed and prime the fuel system as per GTR.
Start the vehicle and carry out the pump learn process with IDS as per GTR.
Carry out a road test to ensure the issue has been rectified and no codes have been logged.
Submit any findings on ePQR to engineering.
2) If no sign of water or debris but either codes logged carry out the following:-
Check the integrity of the wiring and the condition of the terminal connections between PCM and Fuel Rail Pressure Sensor and between PCM and FMV. Repair wiring as necessary and re test the vehicle.
If no issue is found with the wiring / connections, and code P1169 logged, replace the FMV as per GTR and LTB00153.
Replace the fuel rail PRV (Pressure Relief Valve), only If DTC P0089 is present as per GTR.
Start the vehicle and carry out the pump learn process with IDS as per GTR.
Carry out a road test to ensure the issue has been rectified and no codes have been logged.
Submit any findings on ePQR to engineering.
Note:-
A new tank / breather design was introduced on Defender 90 Vin# LD8A760582. and Defender 110/130 at Vin# LD8A760304.
Please submit an ePQR for any issue seen on vehicles post these vins.
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Nr.7)
SSM40308
Models
LD - Defender
Title Mulitiple Starter Motor Failure
Last Modified 21-JAN-2009 17:43
Category Electrical
Symptom 203000 Basic Electrical
Content
Issue:
Repeat failures on Defender starter motors.
Cause:
The ignition switch can jam causing starter motor failure due to over running.
Action:
If the starter motor has failed check operation of ignition switch;
a) Is the switch jammed through any of its positions?
b) Does the switch fully return to position 2 once cranked and the inhibit operates, not allowing re-crank from position 2?
c) Does the starter motor continue to engage once cranked and key released?
If the answer to any of the above is YES please change ignition barrel as well as starter motor as potentially the starter motor will fail again.
Vehicles post vin. 775971 have been modified and should not demonstate this concern.
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LTB00166
Subject/Concern: Clutch Noise/Poor Selection
Models:
Defender (LD) 2.4 Puma Diesel Engine. 2.4 Puma Diesel Engine. VIN-range: 7A732615-9A766150
Markets: All
Section: 308-00
Summary:
Potential difficult gear selection and noise in clutch operation.
Cause: Improvements have been made to the specification of the clutch plate and clutch cover to
address both the potentially difficult gear selection and noise during clutch operation
concerns.Suggested customer concern code P24.
Action: Should it become necessary to install the clutch kit assembly, refer to the new procedure
detailed in Global Technical Reference GTR Workshop Manual, section 308-00.
Parts Required:
Description Part Number Quantity
Clutch kit Assembly. URB500080 1
Labour Time:
Operation Description Operation No. Time
Clutch kit Assembly Renew. 33.10.01 3.9 hours
Repair/Claim Coding:
Causal Part: URB500080
ACES Condition
Code:
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Nr.9)
Technical Service Bulletin No.LTB00211
30 April 2009
Subject/Concern: Transmission Stuck in Gear, Selector Shaft Detents Now Available
Models: Defender (LD) 2.4 Puma Diesel 2.4 Puma Diesel VIN-range: 7A732615 Onwards
Markets: All
Section: 308-03
Summary: This Technical Bulletin is to advise that the transmission selector shaft detents are now available as a serviceable part. Therefore it is no longer necessary to replace the complete transmission assembly for concerns related to the transmission selector shaft detents (transmission stuck in gear).
Should it become necessary to replace the transmission selector shaft detents, refer to the new procedure detailed in Global Technical Reference GTR Workshop Manual, section 308-03.
Parts Required:
Description Part Number Quantity
Transmission Detent Kit LR017294 1
Labour Time:
Operation Description Operation No. Time
Selector Shaft Detents – renew 37.16.75 4.9 hours
P019v4_EX - Park Brake Oil Contamination
Q068v5_ROW - Engine Lacks Power and MIL Light On - Service Action
Q055 ROW - SERVICE ACTION ‘A’ Frame Suspension Arm
Q054v2 ROW - Brake Pipe Contact with Heat Shield - Defender 2007 - 2008
Q049v4 ROW - Service Action - Engine Oil Pan Damage - Export Markets Only
A234v2 - UNDER BONNET HARNESS ROUTING
LTB00177v4 - Brake Vacuum Pump Seal Oil Leak
LTB00146 - Front Brake Pad Knock/Rattle
LTB00078 - Defender - ABS/TC Warning Lamps Illuminated. (Updated to include ABS Modulator Lower-Level Repair)
LD206-002 - Defender - ABS/TC/HDC Warning Lamps Illuminated
LD206-001 - Defender - Introduction of New ABS Overlay Harness
700194 - Transmission Brake Shoe Rattle at 2800/3000 RPM
0015 - REAR ABS SENSOR HARNESS DAMAGE
SSM43699 - Defender Puma Diesel Turbo/ Intercooler hoses
SSM45326 - Defender rear axle breather pipe 07MY onwards
SSM44470 - Defender transmission oil filler plug
SSM44124 - Method change Defender Transfer Box removal/refit
SSM42403 - Defender 110/130 07 MY on Rear Differential Flange availability
SSM41660 - Defender 07MY onwardsTransmission Synchronizer availability
SSM38851 - Defender 07MY Transfer Box Oil Level
SSM34425 - Defender 07 Model Year - Clutch Pedal Bite Point
SSM44530 - Defender Front Wipers Inoperative / Incorrect Parking on screen
SSM42916 - Defender non start condition 2008my onwards
SSM42787 - Auxiliary jack plug damage / sound quality - Defender
SSM41480 - Starter Motor Diagnostics
SSM40308 - Mulitiple Starter Motor Failure
SSM39653 - Defender 07MY onwards Heater Temperature Imbalance (LHD only)
SSM39533 - Updated battery care manual now available in GTR
SSM30861 - Head Lamp / Fog Lamp Discolouration / Distortion
SSM26067 - Aircon Hose Foul